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	<title>Comments on: Video: How to use a solar panel to power your gadgets.</title>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://solarumpc.com/2007/06/09/video-how-to-use-a-solar-panel-to-power-your-gadgets/comment-page-1/#comment-209</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video. Thanks for the information. http://solarbatterychargers.ws/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great video. Thanks for the information. <a href="http://solarbatterychargers.ws/" rel="nofollow">http://solarbatterychargers.ws/</a></p>
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		<title>By: lurch</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...to fill the energy gap at night time you might consider a small wind generator i.e. mounted on the tent &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.gotwind.org/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;to fill the energy gap at night time you might consider a small wind generator i.e. mounted on the tent <a HREF="http://www.gotwind.org/" REL="nofollow">link</a></p>
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		<title>By: lurch</title>
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		<dc:creator>lurch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2007 10:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;thanks for this remarkable video, it was a great source of information for   me and saved me a lot of time for searching for suitable products.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks again!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Martin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve,</p>
<p>thanks for this remarkable video, it was a great source of information for   me and saved me a lot of time for searching for suitable products.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
<p>Martin</p>
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		<title>By: Chippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll try to explain why the L-A battery is needed.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Li-Ion batteries (in notebooks) charge using a constant current (stream) of power at a fixed voltage.  Usually this is around 1A. Most of the 12V portabl solar panels only reach this power at high sun levels meaning you can only use them for a few hours mid-day. In fact a 12W panel such as you have might not even be enough. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Secondly, if you have a huge panel that could deliver, say, twice as much power as needed, its not used. Only the power needed is taken. The rest is wasted.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;L-A batteries are more flexible. YOu can charge them with a little trickle and also with a higher charge rate. They are much more suited to pairing with a solar panel.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;To power the laptop and charge it at the same time you&#039;ll need even more power. Your 12W panel will not be able to do that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The answer is to charge as much as you can into the L-A battery and then release it as-needed into your laptop via a voltage converter. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The problem with this solution is weight. Small 12v L-A batteries are over 2KG in weight!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Whats needed is a flexible Li-Ion battert charing solution. Currently there are no products on the market that can achive this.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;In summary there are 2 solutions.&lt;br/&gt;1 - Get a panel powerful enough to charge a li-ion battery at 70% of its rated output. For example, a 25W panel and the Tekkeon MP3400 li-ion battery. This will give you about 4 hours of charge time on a sunny summer day. Enough to completely fill up the li-ion battery.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;2 - Go for a heavier solution with a L-A battery and give yourself more charging flexibility.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Regards&lt;br/&gt;Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll try to explain why the L-A battery is needed.</p>
<p>Li-Ion batteries (in notebooks) charge using a constant current (stream) of power at a fixed voltage.  Usually this is around 1A. Most of the 12V portabl solar panels only reach this power at high sun levels meaning you can only use them for a few hours mid-day. In fact a 12W panel such as you have might not even be enough. </p>
<p>Secondly, if you have a huge panel that could deliver, say, twice as much power as needed, its not used. Only the power needed is taken. The rest is wasted.</p>
<p>L-A batteries are more flexible. YOu can charge them with a little trickle and also with a higher charge rate. They are much more suited to pairing with a solar panel.</p>
<p>To power the laptop and charge it at the same time you&#8217;ll need even more power. Your 12W panel will not be able to do that.</p>
<p>The answer is to charge as much as you can into the L-A battery and then release it as-needed into your laptop via a voltage converter. </p>
<p>The problem with this solution is weight. Small 12v L-A batteries are over 2KG in weight!</p>
<p>Whats needed is a flexible Li-Ion battert charing solution. Currently there are no products on the market that can achive this.</p>
<p>In summary there are 2 solutions.<br />1 &#8211; Get a panel powerful enough to charge a li-ion battery at 70% of its rated output. For example, a 25W panel and the Tekkeon MP3400 li-ion battery. This will give you about 4 hours of charge time on a sunny summer day. Enough to completely fill up the li-ion battery.</p>
<p>2 &#8211; Go for a heavier solution with a L-A battery and give yourself more charging flexibility.</p>
<p>Regards<br />Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: Turkish E.T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Turkish E.T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 04:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi steve,&lt;br/&gt;great video. Can you tell me why we need the lead acid battery?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I have the following solar charger:&lt;br/&gt;http://cgi.ebay.com.hk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=300109488427&amp;sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ::1&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;m not really thinking of charging anything other than batteries and pocket pc, mostly 5V devices. Althought it would be lovely to charge my 19V notebook. do I still need the lead acid battery?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;the example Ramzid sent has a maximum output of 9V so we&#039;d still need additional power if we wanted to charge notebook pc&#039;s would we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi steve,<br />great video. Can you tell me why we need the lead acid battery?</p>
<p>I have the following solar charger:<br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com.hk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&#038;item=300109488427&#038;sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ::1" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com.hk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&#038;item=300109488427&#038;sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ::1</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not really thinking of charging anything other than batteries and pocket pc, mostly 5V devices. Althought it would be lovely to charge my 19V notebook. do I still need the lead acid battery?</p>
<p>the example Ramzid sent has a maximum output of 9V so we&#8217;d still need additional power if we wanted to charge notebook pc&#8217;s would we?</p>
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		<title>By: Chippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hanks Ramzid.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;As you say, it corresponds to the setup I  was hoping  to  achieve (solar power  direct into Li-Ion batteries.)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I guess I could combine a number of those together but it would be a bit of a  nightmare mounting them  somewhere!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hanks Ramzid.</p>
<p>As you say, it corresponds to the setup I  was hoping  to  achieve (solar power  direct into Li-Ion batteries.)</p>
<p>I guess I could combine a number of those together but it would be a bit of a  nightmare mounting them  somewhere!</p>
<p>Steve</p>
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		<title>By: RamziD</title>
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		<dc:creator>RamziD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2007 17:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://usb.brando.com.hk/prod_detail.php?prod_id=00304&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;maybe not enough voltage but I believe this product corresponds to the integation of different compnents you mentionned, isn&#039;it?</description>
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<p>maybe not enough voltage but I believe this product corresponds to the integation of different compnents you mentionned, isn&#8217;it?</p>
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		<title>By: Chippy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chippy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t have an email link on this page as far as I know.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You can use &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/contact/&quot; REL=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this form&lt;/a&gt; if you need to contact me.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Regards&lt;br/&gt;Steve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t have an email link on this page as far as I know.</p>
<p>You can use <a HREF="http://www.umpcportal.com/modules/contact/" REL="nofollow">this form</a> if you need to contact me.</p>
<p>Regards<br />Steve.</p>
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		<title>By: Raharney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raharney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2007 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Steve,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;your email link is not working.  Could you have a look at it please.&lt;br/&gt;Ta,&lt;br/&gt;Raharney</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Steve,</p>
<p>your email link is not working.  Could you have a look at it please.<br />Ta,<br />Raharney</p>
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