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		<title>Solar charging. Lead Acid vs Li-Ion</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 11:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In a recent comment here, someone asked why the Lead-Acid battery was needed. Its probably not too clear in the video why I use it so I reproduce my answer (which comes from the best of my knowledge!) here. There are two main problems with charging Li-Ion batteries from Solar panels. Firstly, Li-Ion batteries (in [...]]]></description>
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<p>In a recent comment here, someone asked why the Lead-Acid battery was needed. Its probably not too clear in the video why I use it so I reproduce my answer (which comes from the best of my knowledge!) here.
<p>There are two main problems with charging Li-Ion batteries from Solar panels.
<p>Firstly, Li-Ion batteries (in notebooks and battery bank) charge using a constant current (stream) of power. For common notebook batteries and battery banks such as the Tekkeon MP3400, this is around 1A. A lot of the 12V portable solar panels only reach this power at high sun levels meaning you can only use them for a few hours mid-day. In fact a 12W panel might not be enough to even start the charging process. Secondly, if you have a huge panel that could deliver, say, twice as much power as needed, its not used. Only the power needed is taken. The rest is wasted.</p>
<p>These two problems can be overcome at the expense of weight with a lead-acid battery.<br />L-A batteries are more flexible. You can charge them with a trickle and also with a higher charge rate. They are much more suited to pairing with a solar panel. The problem with this solution is weight. Small 12v L-A batteries are over 2KG in weight!</p>
<p>What&#8217;s needed is a flexible Li-Ion battery charging solution. Currently there are no products on the market that can archive this but I&#8217;m searching hard!</p>
<p>In summary there are 2 solutions.<br />1 &#8211; Get a panel powerful enough to charge a Li-ion battery at 70% of its rated output. For example, a 25W panel and the Tekkeon MP3400 Li-ion battery. This will give you about 4 hours of charge time on a sunny summer day.&nbsp; (Mid-Europe) This should be enough to completely fill up the Li-ion battery.<br />2 &#8211; Go for a heavier solution with a L-A battery and give yourself more charging flexibility.</p>
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