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		<title>Refining the Solar equipment. Li-Ion or Lead-Acid?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve just had a nice conversation with my energy advisors, Select Solar, about some of the issues I&#8217;ve seen with the tests I&#8217;ve done so far.&#160; The main problem being that Li-Ion batteries will not trickle charge. They require a certain level of stable voltage/current before they start to charge and this wastes the possibility [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve just had a nice conversation with my energy advisors, <a href="http://www.selectsolar.co.uk/index.php">Select Solar</a>, about some of the issues I&#8217;ve seen with the tests I&#8217;ve done so far.&nbsp; The main problem being that Li-Ion batteries will not trickle charge. They require a certain level of stable voltage/current before they start to charge and this wastes the possibility of charging a battery at lower sun power. In fact, on a hazy day or with light cloud cover, the sun power might not actually go above 70% and you have no chance to charge anything. This could be&nbsp; major problem and I&#8217;ve decided to try and address it. </p>
<p>A&nbsp;solution to this problem, <a href="http://www.solar-umpc.com/2007/05/solar-panel-testing-tough-calculations.html">as I mentioned before</a>,&nbsp;is lead-acid batteries. These are the type you will find in your car and are a tried, tested, reliable and relatively cheap solution. The problem is that they are also extremely heavy &#8211; at least 400% of the weight for like-for-like power storage. They also operate at 12v which means voltage conversions (and more electronics and power-wastage) in order to operate the UMPC.</p>
<p>The decision I&#8217;ve made is to buy a&nbsp;70W/hr 12v lead-acid battery (2200g) and to try and use this as a charge buffer. Here&#8217;s a little sketch of the planned set-up.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.solar-umpc.com/files/images/RefiningtheSolarequipmen.LiIonorLeadAcid_D1A1/solar18.jpg"><img height="238" src="http://www.solar-umpc.com/files/images/RefiningtheSolarequipmen.LiIonorLeadAcid_D1A1/solar1_thumb4.jpg" width="400"></a> </p>
<p>The idea would be that I connect devices to the lead-acid battery as the solar power increases during the day. For example, I might add a couple of AA batteries or my mobile phone in the morning. At mid morning I might replace it with the Li-On battery and during the peak hours I could re-attach the AA battery charger with 2 or 4 batteries depending on sun power. </p>
<p>Two problems I can see here:</p>
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<li>How do you know the charge on the lead-acid battery?</li>
<li>Will the lead-acid battery be able to feed up to 1.5 Amps?</li>
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<p>There&#8217;s only one way to find out. I&#8217;ve just put an order in for a 70W/hr lead acid battery and charge controller along with some fresh AA batteries, a powerbank tip adaptor for the Samsung Q1, a 12v charger for the mobile phone and something I&#8217;ve always wanted, a flexible USB LED-lamp!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.solar-umpc.com/files/images/RefiningtheSolarequipmen.LiIonorLeadAcid_D1A1/image03.png"><img style="margin: 0px 5px 5px 0px" height="238" src="http://www.solar-umpc.com/files/images/RefiningtheSolarequipmen.LiIonorLeadAcid_D1A1/image0_thumb1.png" width="176" align="left" border="0"></a> Later today I will probably be ordering the solar panel. I won&#8217;t be using the P3 Panel as the only advantage with that was that it could drive 19V into the PowerBank. Now that I&#8217;m going for a 12V source solution I&#8217;m going to be looking at the <a href="http://www.selectsolar.co.uk/pics/sunlinq.php">25W version of this Sunlinq panel</a> which is the same price as the 15W version of the P3 panel. There&#8217;s a risk that its going to be too big for the bike at 1m long but even if I fold 25% of it away, its still going to give more power than the 15W panel and during mid-day pause and work sessions I hope to get the full 25W out of it.</p>
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